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    2121    The pattern of fluxsens is similar for different seasons. It increases over most regions (3 W/m2 for most regions).[[BR]] 
    2222    The variation of fluxlat (+/- 6 W/m2 over most regions) and precipitation (+/-0.5mm/d over most regions) is less systematic than Ts and fluxsens. [[BR]] 
     26== Summary of ORCHIDEE DEV meeting on 6 Oct. 2015 == 
     28Time: 6 Oct. 2015, 10H00-12H20 [[BR]] 
     29Place: Jussieu, Atrium room (big one), LSCE (through vdeo conference)[[BR]] 
     30Participants: Philippe P., Agnes D., Frederique C., Nicolas V., Jan P., Pascal M., Ardalan T., Josefine G., Matthieu G., Adriana S., Anais B., Sonia A., Fuxing W., ...[[BR]] 
     32The meeting includes four parts.[[BR]] 
     33''Link to all the presentations:''  
     36'''Part 0: Introduction.'''[[BR]] 
     37  Philippe P. shortly summarized the current status in the ORCHDIEE trunk (e.g., the water balance problem, the new driver, the new thermal properties, ...) 
     39'''Part 1 (around 1 hour): Four  presentations by Agnes D., Ardalan T., Nicolas V., and Fuxing W.'''[[BR]] 
     40  (1). Agnes D. presented the bare soil evaporation (BSE) parameterization in ORCHIDEE 11.[[BR]] 
     41  BSE is overestimated in ORCHDIEE 11. 
     43  (2). Ardalan T. presented the varies tests by adding soil resistance in BSE.[[BR]] 
     44  Jan P. suggested to do test with different number of top soil layers.[[BR]] 
     46  (3). Nicolas V. presented the Su et al., 2001 in ORCHDIEE offline model.[[BR]] 
     47  Currently, the veget_max is used for calculating z0 over forest.[[BR]] 
     48  The objective is to parameterize z0 using dynamic vegetation (e.g., LAI). [[BR]] 
     49  z0 from 'Su' were tested over site scale,  it improves the latent heat and sensible heat simulation.[[BR]] 
     51  (4). Fuxing W. presented the testing of z0 in LMDZOR coupled simulation.[[BR]] 
     52  In general, z0m is different from z0h. Four formulas were tested:  z0h = z0m/10; z0h = z0m/100; S01 [Su et al., 2001, JAM]; CZ09 [Chen and Zhang, 2009, GRL];[[BR]] 
     53  --> T2m increases (LE decreases) with the decrease of z0h;[[BR]] 
     54  --> These modifications compensate part of CMIP6 T2m (underestimated) and LE (overestimated) bias.[[BR]] 
     55  T2m increases when d is considered in LMDZ and when von karman constant (=0.4) is used in ORCHIDEE-LMDZ.[[BR]] 
     57'''Part 2: Discussions (around 1 hour)'''.[[BR]] 
     58  (1) The treat of z0m and z0h in LMDZ and ORCHDIEE.[[BR]] 
     59  Jan P.: Theoretically, the ORCHIDEE should provide z0h (but not z0m) to LMDZ, ORCHIDEE does not need z0m.[[BR]] 
     60  ORCHIDEE uses z0h to calculate the heat/water flux.[[BR]] 
     61  LMDZ then calculate the z0m  by considering the large scale orography effects.[[BR]] 
     63  Adriana S.:[[BR]] 
     64  Currently, LMDZ is using the z0 from ORCHIDEE as z0m, and z0h = z0m in PBL.[[BR]] 
     65  The orography effects have been considered in another way by Francois L., but z0m does not include it.[[BR]] 
     66  (Adriana S. is now working on the LMDZ dust transport modeling.)[[BR]] 
     68  Fuxing W.: The z0 over bare soil is 0.01m in ORC.[[BR]] 
     69  If the z0 in ORCHIDEE is z0h, according to the fact that the z0m > z0h for most surfaces (z0m =10* z0h for example). [[BR]] 
     70  The z0m over bare soil will become too large (0.1 m).[[BR]] 
     72  (2) The implementing Su et al. (2001) or other "z0h ≠ z0m" method in ORCHIDEE offline and LMDZOR:[[BR]] 
     74  Question by Pascal M.: how many parameters to calibrate in Su's formula ?[[BR]] 
     75  Fuxing W. : The parameter marked in red in the slide (of Su's equations) need to calibrated for different vegetation types.[[BR]] 
     76  e.g., c1, c2, c3, Cd, Ct, ...[[BR]] 
     77  Other points by Fuxing W.: Su's formula has not been fully evaluated on global scale. [[BR]] 
     78  Many GCMs use a factor to modify the z0m to obtain z0h. The factor varies with land surface types but constant over time.[[BR]] 
     79  Some models use kB-1 method to parameteriza z0h (kB-1 = ln(z0m/z0h)).[[BR]] 
     81  Question by Jan: How the z0 over different land surfaces is considered in one model grid when testing Su's method ? 
     82  Nicolas V.: There are two fractions in Su's formula: one for bare soil, another for vegetated surface. 
     83  The grid mean value is obtained by weighting z0 over different surfaces. The same parameter is used over different PFT's. 
     85  Frederique C.: Some additional points about the tests done with LMDZ6-ORC and the bias.[[BR]] 
     86  --Eventhough the z0h=z0m/10 or the Su tests seem to go in the right direction, the correction they can bring are small with respect to the  cold bias in the present simulations of LMdZ6/ORC11.[[BR]] 
     87  --the geographical patterns of the corrections do not match the actual patterns of the bias.[[BR]] 
     88  --The z0h=z0m/10 goes in the right direction when Fuxing assumes that it is z0m which is given by orchidee to LMDZ.[[BR]] 
     89  --The biais could be due to  the PBL parameterization  as well ( very cold biais over Groenland as well, which is not sensitive to z0) [ need to detailed analysis, tbd][[BR]] 
     90  --The origin of the bias can be very different on dry regions such as desert and high latitudes.[[BR]] 
     91  --My understanding of the orography impact: The impact of the orography is not included in the cdragm, but the orography impacts the wind at the first atmospheric level which in turn impacts the exchange coefficient[[BR]] 
     92  --According to work of B. Marticorena and Catherine Prigent (at least over Sahara and Sahel), the values of z0 for bare soil in Orchidee are much higher than observations.[[BR]] 
     93  --In winter, we identified a cold bias with ORC11 and not with ORC2 when we evaluated LMDZ (new-physique of CMIP5) over SIRTA. This bias has been related to an excess of latent heat flux.[[BR]] 
     95  (3) zero plane displacement (d).[[BR]] 
     96  Question by Agnes. D: Is the d used in ORCHIDEE ?[[BR]] 
     97  Jan P.: Yes. It is considered when calculating the drag.[[BR]] 
     98  Point added by Fuxing W. in this summary: and d is not used here ?[[BR]] 
     99  in condveg_z0cdrag:   z0(:) = z0(:) + d_veg(:) * (ct_karman/LOG(ztmp(:)/MAX(height(:,jv)*z0_over_height,z0_bare)))**2 
     101'''Part 3: Conclusion.'''[[BR]] 
     102  To proceed, we propose:[[BR]] 
     103  (1) to correct von karman constant in ORCHIDEE from 0.35 to 0.40. (Nicolas V. has tested it in ORCHDIEE offline mode, it is not sensitive.)[[BR]] 
     104  (2) There are lots of evidence show that the z0h and z0m should be different . We agree that to implement different z0h and z0m in LMDZOR.[[BR]] 
     105  (3) Jan P. : There are currently two subroutines in condveg.f90 to calculate the grid average z0 : condveg_z0logz and condveg_z0cdrag.[[BR]] 
     106  We should think a better way and keep only one method.[[BR]] 
     107  d0 needs to be transferred to LMDZ and used there. This is a big error which needs to be fixed.[[BR]] 
     108  (4) Frederique C. is curious to know the effects of bare soil scheme on surface meteorology at global scale.[[BR]] 
     109  (5) We also agreed to make a review of how z0s are calculated in both ORCHIDEE and LMDZ, highlighting the inconsistencies between the two models, the zones that remain unclear (like around topographic drag), and the order of magnitudes of the involved quantities (z0 mostly), since the goal is not only to change the calculations, but also to improve them, and for good reasons. [[BR]]