Changes between Version 3 and Version 4 of DevelopmentActivities/CMIP6/DevelopmentsCMIP6/soil_physic


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2015-02-06T13:05:33+01:00 (9 years ago)
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  • DevelopmentActivities/CMIP6/DevelopmentsCMIP6/soil_physic

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    1818=== Discussions === 
    1919 
    20 '''Jan Polcher, 13/01/15''' 
     20'''Jan Polcher, 13/01/15 (mail)''' 
    2121 
    2222après notre discussion cet après-midi j'ai un peu réfléchi à comment "merger" les 4 points de Philippe dans le trunk, tout en permettant à tout le monde de suivre ce qui se passe et donc de construire une confiance commune dans ces changements. 
     
    3535Pour réaliser ce plan je suis disposé à travailler avec Fuxing et Thao sur les étapes 1 et 2. Je ne peux pas quantifier le travail pour chaque étape, mais une semaine me semble un bon first-guess. Je pense que pour la neige ce sera un peu plus long. Mais comme cela vient en second on peut préparer les choses en amont.  
    3636 
    37 '''Philipe Peylin, 17/01/15''' 
     37'''Philipe Peylin, 17/01/15 (mail)''' 
    3838 
    3939Concernant la proposition de Jan: 
     
    4141- Ensuite pour le point 2 et 4, personnellement j'aurais traiter cela ensemble (mais je ne suis pas le plus compétent pour juger de l'intéret de séparer) 
    4242 
    43 '''Agnès Ducharne, 23/01/15''' 
     43'''Agnès Ducharne, 23/01/15 (mail)''' 
    4444 
    4545My opinion is that the main challenges are :[[BR]] 
     
    8989(3) 1st layer depth It is 1cm for the 1st soil layer in ISBA. A. BOONE's opinion is that the 1mm soil depth is too thin, and A. BOONE's suggested it better to use at least 1 cm for the 1st layer. 
    9090 
    91 '''Jan Polcher, 26/01/15''' to Agnès 23/01/15 
     91'''Jan Polcher, 26/01/15 (mail)''' to Agnès 23/01/15 
    9292 
    9393thank you for this analysis ... which I totally share. I will give you my feeling on a few of the points you raise : 
     
    108108For the snow, I am still waiting to see the equations to be used to coupled the bottom temperature of snow pack with the one of the soil. Once we have all the equations of the temperature diffusion (from the skin temperature to the bottom of the soil and through the snow pack) in implicit form, things should flow smoothly. 
    109109 
    110 '''Fuxing Wang, 26/01/15''' 
     110'''Fuxing Wang, 26/01/15 (mail)''' 
    111111 
    112112(1) The depth. This should be configurable by the user as different applications will have different needs. We should code things so that each one can test the configuration which suits him/her best. 
     
    124124The bottom positions from top 4st to 6th layers are : 2.151cm, 4.497cm, 9.189cm. 
    125125 
    126 '''Frédérique Cheruy, 27/01/15''' 
     126'''Frédérique Cheruy, 27/01/15 (mail)''' 
    127127 
    128128''About the optimal vertical discretization for W and T''[[BR]] 
     
    143143Whoever will work on that subject,  it would be good to know if the bare soil albedo maps prepared by Sebastian and team can be directly pluged into Orchidee-trunk or if we need to see with ISBA people, or to redo the work ourselves. 
    144144 
    145 '''Jan Polcher, 27/01/15''' to F. Chéruy, 27/01/15 
     145'''Jan Polcher, 27/01/15 (mail)''' to F. Chéruy, 27/01/15 
    146146 
    147147Je suis d'accord avec toi qu'il faudra définir la "configurabilité" des niveaux verticaux en fonction des différentes contraintes. Le nombre de nivaux sera sans doute un résultat plutôt qu'un paramètre. 
     
    151151C'est la même chose qui est fait dans LMDZ au pôle !  
    152152 
     153'''Jan Polcher, 06/02/15 (mail)''' 
    153154 
     155I have given it some thought on how to specify the parameter in order to choose the common levels between hydrol and thermosoil. 
     156 
     157In order to see what works best from a user point of view, I have written a simple python script to select the properties of the vertical discretisation and plot the result. The 4 parameters I propose for the moment are :[[BR]] 
     158Depth of top hydrology layer [9.77517107e-04 m] >[[BR]] 
     159Depth of hydrology [2.0m] >[[BR]] 
     160Depth at which linear hydrology layers start [0.75 m] >[[BR]] 
     161Depth of thermodynamics [8.0m] >[[BR]] 
     162in [] are the default values you can if you do not enter anything to the script and which produce a result very similar to what we have today. 
     163Attached is also the plot produced by the script. 
     164 
     165There is still the open question if we need a vertical filter for the top layer of thermosoil, and if so we need to specify the filtering depth. 
     166 
     167So please play with this and see if these are the parameters which are best suited for ORCHIDEE or if we should change some. 
     168 
     169The way I have coded the calculation of the vertical levels and number of layer in Python, are very FORTRAN like. So once we agree it should be easy to put that into a module of ORCHIDEE and test again if we need or not a numerical filter. 
     170 
     171So once we agree on the choice it can be implemented in the trunk.  
    154172=== Agreed actions and Agenda === 
    155173